Tuesday, February 23, 2010

Do you know whats in your pellets?

So you may have notice the previous post. I posted about guinea pig nutrition. Recently I have been on a small kick about the girls diet. And for a good reason.

Stella has been  having some issues with the pellets i have been feeding them. I have been trying to get  ether Oxbow or Kleenmama's. But Oxbox is hard to find and Kleenmama is not sold in stores. So i ended up buying Kaytee Forti diet. Well i have been noticing some white powdery stuff on the fleece in the cage. After a thorough investigation i found that Stella was the one.I also looked it up on Guinea Lynx and found this:

NORMAL:
Urine may be clear to cloudy in color. Calcium compounds in the urine cause this cloudiness. Normal urine is not gritty in texture. Dried urine may leave powdery white calcium compounds. Very young guinea pigs often have an orange or brown tint to their urine. Urine sometimes changes to an orange color on standing (this may be the oxidation of porphyrins in the urine).

NOT NORMAL:
    dot Gritty compounds: may indicate sludge in the bladder. Strong smelling urine may be a sign of dehydration or infection. The gritty deposits are sometimes called sludge, which feels coarse and sandy. Powdery deposits are normal. Rub the deposits between your fingers to determine if they are powdery or gritty.
    dot Blood in urine is not normal and may be due to a urinary tract infection, bladder stones, or (in females) reproductive problems like pyometra (an infection of the lining of the uterus).
    dot Incontinence is not normal. Your guinea pig should be relatively dry. If its fur is constantly wet and/or there is an odor, be sure to have your pet checked out for a urinary tract infection or other problem.

TIP: To check for sludge, line the cage with dark colored towels. To check for blood, use light colored towels. 


After reading this i went over to Guinea pig Cages and to find out which foods that might be causing this. As of right now. They get Lettuce, Peppers, Cilantro and Zucchini daily. Which are safe foods to feed everyday. Then on Mon/Wed/Fri they get Dandelions and tomatoes. T/Th/Sat they get baby carrots and cucumbers. And on Sundays they get Broccoli and a piece of fruit.  On our next food shopping day i plan to change the girls diet. I'm going to be adding and rearranging foods. I will have that in a different post.

I thought that may be i was feeding to many food that were high in calcium so i stopped feeding all veggies so that her system could flushed out any extra out for a week. But she was leaving even more. Since she was just eating the hay and pellets. Well hay isn't high in calcium. But alfalfa is. So i took a look at the ingredients of the pellets and the first thing that was listed was calcium.  Alfalfa Hay is to be given only to pregnant, nursing and growing guinea pigs. Not Adults.  So i stopped giving her the Kaytee Forti Diet. Since i have stopped feeding her the Forti diet she no long is leaving white spots in the cage.
  
Kleenmama you can only order online, as i said before. So after adding up how much we pay for hay which is like $12 for a 2 and half bag of hay from Kaytee and $7 dollars for a 5 pound bag of Kaytee timothy complete.  I will be ordering Kleenmama's from now on. I can get a 15 pounds of bluegrass hay for $14 and  $10 for a 9 pound bag of pellets. Which will be timothy based.


Kleenmama and Oxbow are the very few guinea pig foods that are the best for them. The dont have all of the extra garbage thats in the Kaytee,
After looking farther into this Kaytee has ingredients that i know a guinea pig should not be eating. In bold should not be in guinea pig pellets. I'm sure there are more that i'm not aware of. 

Taken from Guinea lynx

Kaytee Forti Diet Ingredients
Dehydrated Alfalfa Meal, Ground Corn, Dehulled Soybean Meal, Ground Oats, Ground Wheat, Dicalcium Phosphate, Dried Cane Molasses, Corn Oil, Salt, Calcium Carbonate, Magnesium Oxide, Potassium Chloride, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), DL-Methionine, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Vitamin A Supplement, Choline Chloride, Ferrous Carbonate, Riboflavin Supplement, Manganous Oxide, Ethoxyquin (a preservative), Zinc Oxide, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of vitamin K activity), Copper Oxide, Cholecalciferol (source of vitamin D3), Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Biotin, Folic Acid, Calcium Iodate, Cobalt Carbonate, Sodium Selenite.

Guaranteed Analysis
Crude Protein (min.) 18.0% Crude Fat (min.) 3.5% Crude Fiber (max.) 14.0% Moisture (max.) 12.0% Ascorbic Acid (min.) 100 mg/lb
 

And I'm pretty sure that Ethoxyquin is toxic in high doses



This is Kleemama's Timothy Choice Pellets

Timothy grass hay, oats, wheat, barley, soybean hulls, soy meal, Choline Chloride, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A supplement,Vitamin E supplement, Manganese Oxide, Meniodine Bisulfate, dl-Methionine, Zinc Oxide, d-Calcium Pantothenate,Copper Sulfate, Niacin, d-Biotin supplement, Pyrideoxine Hydrochloride, Folic Acid, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin D-3 supplement, Riboflavin supplement, Cobalt Sulfate, Vitamin B-12 supplement, Calcium Iodate, Cane molasses

Guaranteed Analysis
Crude Protein (min) 14.00 %
Crude Fat (min) 2.5 %
Crude Fiber (min) 20.00 %
Crude Fiber (max) 25.00 %
Vitamin A (IU/KG) 30,000
Vitamin D-3 (ICU/KG) 1,000
Vitamin C (mg/kg) 1,000
Calcium (min) 0.7
Phosphorus (min) 0.4

This is Oxbow Cavy Cuisine (Timothy based by Oxbow)

Crude Protein min 14.00 \\\%
Crude Fat min 1.50 \\\%
Crude Fiber min 25.00 \\\%
Crude Fiber max 28.00 \\\%
Calcium min 0.35 \\\%
Calcium max 0.85 \\\%
Phosphorus min 0.25 \\\%
Salt min 0.50 \\\%
Salt max 1.00 \\\%
Vitamin A, IU/lb min 13,000
Vitamin C, mg/lb min 200

Ingredients

Timothy Meal, Soybean Hulls, Wheat Middlings, Soybean Meal, Salt, Limestone, Molasses Products, Yeast Culture, Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Monophosphate L-ascorbic Acid, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (Vitamin K), Riboflavin, Niacin Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Biotin, Thiamine, Pyrodoxine Hydrochloride, Folic Acid, Lysine Hydrochloride, Sodium Selenite, Ferrous Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Cobalt Carbonate, Copper Amino Acid Complex, Zinc Amino Acid Complex, Manganese Amino Acid Complex and Cobalt Glucoheptonate.

Kleenmama and Oxbow are the very few Guinea pig foods that are the best for them.They dont have garbage that other brands have.  Here is more info on pellets.

Sorry but i will not link to Kaytee.

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